Revival
Dialogue
In
order to better appreciate this document, the reader is urged
to first consider the feature,
The True Science of
Healing.
It
is common knowledge that our health message currently lies
dormant in the church's library of forgotten truths. Yet few of
us realize how much suffering has resulted from our general
apathy with regard to a message that God entrusted to us, not only for
our own good, not only for the sake of truth, but for the good
of the world's people. As a direct result of our
neglect, . . .
`The
world is a lazar house filled with victims of both physical
and spiritual disease. Everywhere people are perishing for
lack of a knowledge of the truths that have been entrusted to
us.' (CD455)
To
many of us, our health message is simply a matter of changing
our diets, but the significance of this message is far broader
and deeper than its mere personal application. The startling
fact is that if we had shared these vital health truths with the world, we
would have saved millions of people from terrible suffering
and even from premature death.
Can
it be that we, as a church, are answerable for much of the sickness and
suffering in our world today? To some, the proposition would
sound like treason, but if you take the time to carefully
study the feature
The
True Science of Healing,
you will realize that we really have let the Lord and the
world down.
Nevertheless,
there is little to be
gained by bemoaning our failings and by pointing fingers -
provided we all realise that every one of us carries at least
some proportion of our corporate guilt. Yet, while we
cannot change the past, we do need to consider most seriously
how we are going to stand in the
judgment if we continue to take this all-important message for granted?
Dear
friend,
please caste out of your mind any preconceived ideas that you
might be entertaining regarding our health message. Religion
is all about life, and our health message is all about life -
as such, religion and health cannot be separated. This is why
. . .
`True religion and the laws of health go hand in
hand.' (CH 445)
Even
if some have been fanatical about this message, even if some
might have urged the message on others in an unkind manner,
this does not give us license to continue to disregard a
message that the world is literally dying for.
The
message of vibrant health is one of the most exciting messages
that God has given to us. It is not a message of endless
restrictions, it is not a whip to drive people out of the
church, and it should not lead to controversy amongst sincere
believers. In short, our health message is the promise of what
God will do for us when we maintain a sincere and constant
daily relationship with Him. It is the promise of happiness,
holiness and health.
Please
do be warned however - when conviction comes, do not rush off and try
to become a health
reformer - for such single-handed efforts usually fail -
except, sometimes, when they are prompted by selfish motives.
Rather ask the Lord to help you to develop a deeper
relationship with Him and then, under His supervision and
guidance, you will find yourself doing what you could never do
without him. Your first step, therefore, is to get into a more
serious relationship with Him. You may read more about this by
clicking here.
The
make-believe interview that follows focuses primarily on the importance of
our health message. While the health message certainly includes
many cautions and warnings, these are not the
primary subject of
this interview and, as such, the reader is urged to consider
the relevant counsels in this regard. Please
click here
if you feel the need to read more about fanaticism and
extremes.
It
is our sincere hope that those who consider the dialogue that
follows will be awed by the present-day relevance of our
health message, that they will be encouraged as they
contemplate God's care for us, that they will be amazed as
they consider the lack of emphasis that has been placed on
this message for so many decades, and that they will be
determined to draw closer to Jesus - that He might finally use
us to proclaim this all-important message.
What
follows is all truth - cherish it. Sometimes the truth can
hurt, but
the truth will always make us whole.
Question:
Please could you tell us, is there any
relationship between the laws of health and the moral law?
`Our
first duty, one which we owe to God, to ourselves, and to our
fellow men, is to obey the laws of God, which include the laws
of health.' (3T164)
`The laws governing the physical nature are as truly divine in their origin and character as the law of
ten commandments. Man is fearfully and wonderfully made; for Jehovah has inscribed his law by his own mighty hand on every part of the human body.'
(HL21)
`Transgression
of physical law is transgression of the moral law; for God is
as truly the author of physical laws as He is the author of
the moral law.' (COL347)
`Every careless, inattentive action, any abuse put
upon the Lord's wonderful mechanism, by disregarding His
specified laws in the human habitation, is a violation of
God's law.' (MLT127)
Question: These are challenging statements indeed, does it
follow therefore that there is a definite relationship between
our lifestyle and diet and our spirituality.
`There
are but few as yet who are aroused sufficiently to understand
how much their habits of diet have to do with their health,
their characters, their usefulness in the world, and their
eternal destiny.' (CD51/52)
`Intemperance in eating and ignorance of nature's laws
are causing much of the sickness that exists, and are robbing
God of the glory due Him. Because of a failure to deny self,
many of God's people are unable to reach the high standard of
spirituality He sets before them.' (MYP 218).
`Temperance
in all things is necessary to health and the development and
growth of a good Christian character. The subject of
temperance, in all its bearings, has an important place in the
work of salvation.' (CH38, 443)
`He
who cherishes the light which God has given Him upon health
reform has an important aid in the work of becoming sanctified
through the truth, and fitted for immortality.' (CH22)
Question: So what you are you saying is that there is a
definite link between temperance and our Christian experience.
Is that correct?
`It
is impossible for an intemperate man to be a Christian, for
his higher powers are brought into slavery to the passions.'
(CH36)
Question:
Does this mean that the health message must be proclaimed as a
vital component of the gospel message?
`The
Lord has given instruction that the gospel is to be carried
forward; and the gospel includes health reform in all its
phases.' (MM159)
Question: So I take it that it is of extreme importance that
we encourage each other to take your councils on health most
seriously?
`Men
and women must be instructed, and ministers and people should
feel that the burden of the work rests upon them to agitate
and urge it home upon others.' (CD52)
Question: There is often debate over the matter of whether
violations of the laws of health constitute sin or not. In one
of your statements you "advise every Sabbath keeping canvasser
to avoid meat eating, not because it is sin to eat meat, but
because it is not healthful." (MS15, 1889). Are you saying
that it is not a sin to eat meat, or are you saying that our
motivation for not eating meat should be because it is
unhealthful more than because it is sinful?
`To those who desire prayer for their restoration to
health it should be made plain that the violation of God's
law, either natural or spiritual, is
sin . . . ' `The eating of flesh is unnatural.' (MH228, CD380)
`Flesh
foods are injurious to the physical well being, and we should
learn to do without them [for] it is just as much a sin to
violate the laws of our being as it is to break one of the ten
commandments, we cannot do either without breaking God's law.'
(CH130, 2T70,71)
`When
we take any course which expends our vitality, decreases our
strength, or beclouds the intellect, we sin against God.'
(CH43)
Question: But many of our people are not aware of these
things. Can they be blamed for their ignorance?
`Since
the laws of nature are the laws of God, it is plainly our duty
to give these laws careful study. We should study their
requirements in regard to our own bodies and conform to them.
Ignorance in these things is sin.' (6T369)
`Obedience
to the laws of health should be made a matter of earnest
study; for willing ignorance on this subject is sin. Each one
should feel a personal obligation to carry out the laws of
healthful living.' (3SM291)
Question: I suppose this is why those who work at advancing
the cause of health reform receive so much opposition. Satan
would just love them to stop shining this life-saving
light. Would you say that this is true?
`There
is a large class who will reject any reform movement, however
reasonable, if it lays restriction upon the appetite. They
consult taste, instead of reason and the laws of health. By
this class, all who leave the beaten track of custom and
advocate health reform will be opposed and accounted radical,
let them pursue ever so consistent a course.' (CH153)
`When
the Lord works through human instrumentalities, when men are
moved with power from on high, Satan leads his agents to cry,
"Fanaticism!" and to warn people not to go to
extremes. Let all be careful how they raise this cry; for
though there is counterfeit coin, this does not lower the
value of the genuine.' (GW170/171)
`Because
there are specious revivals and spurious conversions, it does
not follow that all revivals are to be held in suspicion. Let
us not manifest the contempt manifested by the Pharisees when
they said, "This man receiveth sinners." There is
enough in the life of Christ to teach us not to sneer at His
work in the conversion of souls. The manifestation of God's
renewing grace on sinful men causes angels to rejoice, but
often this work has, through unbelief, been termed fanaticism,
and the messenger through whom God has worked has been spoken
of as having a zeal that is not according to knowledge.'
(GW170/171).
Question: Are you saying, therefore, that no matter how
courteously and kindly we endeavor to advance the cause of
health reform, we will nonetheless be branded by a certain
class?
`All
who leave the common track of custom and advocate health
reform, will be opposed, accounted mad, insane and radical.'
(2T377).
Question: So it would appear that the health worker will
have a tough work on his hands.
`The
principles of health reform should be carefully and thoroughly
set before all . . . This work requires moral courage; for while
many will profit by such efforts, others will be offended.
Here is a work before you which will come closer and be more
trying than anything which has been brought to bear upon you.'
(CD499)
Question:
Besides the opposition mentioned above, are there any other
reasons why we have failed to embrace this message and why we
have failed to share these life-saving truths with the world?
`The
gospel of health has able advocates, but their work has been
made very hard because so many ministers, presidents of
conferences, and others in positions of influence, have failed
to give the question of health reform its proper attention.
They have not recognised it in its relation to the work of the
message as the right arm of the body.' (CD73)
Question: In your writings you urge us to come close to the
people and not to see how radically different we can be. Does
this mean that we must break our principles so as not to hurt
anyone's feelings, or should we attempt, by God's grace, to live
up to our principles under all circumstances?
`To those who make the word of God their study book,
some will say, you are too narrow in your ideas. You would
have us separate so completely from the world that we can do
it no good. This is a mistake. The evil feared will not be
realized: but God would have His people distinguished from the
world in all things, or they will become confused, as were the
disciples, who turned back and walked no more with Jesus.'
(CWE122).
`The
life of Daniel is an inspired illustration of what constitutes
a sanctified character. It presents a lesson for all. What if
Daniel and his companions had made a compromise with those
heathen officers, and had yielded to the pressure of the
occasion, by eating and drinking as was customary to the
Babylonians? That single instance of departure from principle
would have weakened their sense of right and their abhorrence
of wrong. Indulgence of appetite would have involved the
sacrifice of physical vigor, clearness of intellect, and
spiritual power. One wrong step would probably have led to
others, until, their connection with Heaven being severed,
they would have been swept away by temptation.' (Te154,155)
Question: Very often members of our church who do not eat
certain foods at home will be presented with those very foods
when visiting with friends. How can they deal with this
problem and what should be their stand?
`When
elaborate preparations are made for them by well-meaning
friends, they are strongly tempted to disregard principle; but
by refusing the dainty dishes, the rich condiments, the tea
and coffee, they may prove themselves to be practical health
reformers.' (CD141)
Question: Would this even apply to our ministers when they
are visiting with members of their church?
`The
minister should decline this well-meaning but unwise
hospitality, even at the risk of seeming discourteous. And the
people should have too much true kindness to press such an
alternative upon him. They err when they test the minister
with unhealthful food.' (CD55)
Question: I guess this must constitute one of the great
tests of Christian tact and courtesy, yet I cannot help
feeling that when we stand firm for principle at such times
we will lose favour with some.
`We bear the name of Christian. Let us be true to this name. To be a Christian means to be
Christlike. It means to follow Christ in self-denial, bearing aloft His banner of love, honoring Him by unselfish words and deeds. In the life of the true Christian there is nothing of
self - self is dead. There was no selfishness in the life that Christ lived while on this earth. Bearing our nature, He lived a life wholly devoted to the good of others . . . In word and deed Christ's followers are to be pure and true. In this
world - a world of iniquity and corruption - Christians are to reveal the attributes of Christ. All they do and say is to be free from
selfishness . . . (HP57)
Nevertheless,
we must remember that `when
we reach the standard that the Lord would have us reach
worldlings will regard [us] as odd, singular, straight-laced
extremists.' (FE289)
Question: Some have tried to be as tactful as possible in
presenting our `less-popular' truths, yet it seems that no
matter how kindly and lovingly this subject is dealt with,
there are always some who take offense and who accuse the
messenger of causing division in the church. Do you have
anything to say in this regard?
`The
facts relative to Korah and his company, who rebelled against
Moses and Aaron, and against Jehovah, are recorded for a
warning to God's people, especially those who live upon the
earth near the close of time. Satan has led persons to imitate
the example of Korah, Dathan and Abiram, in raising
insurrection among the people of God. Those who permit
themselves to rise in opposition to the plain testimony,
become self-deceived, and have really thought that those upon
whom God laid the burden of His work were exalted above the
people of God [holier than thou] and that their counsels and
reproofs were uncalled for. They have risen above the plain
testimony which God would have them bear in rebuking the
wrongs among God's people. The testimonies borne against
hurtful indulgences, as tea, coffee, snuff and tobacco, have
irritated a certain class, because it would destroy their
idols. [Some of these] fully decided, let the consequence be
what it might, they would not deny self. This fearful decision
at once raised a wall of separation between them and those who
were cleansing themselves, as God has commanded, from all
filthiness of the flesh, and of the Spirit, and were
perfecting holiness in the fear of the Lord. The straight
testimonies borne were in their way, and caused them great
uneasiness, and they found relief in warring against them and
striving to make themselves and others believe that they were
untrue. They said the people were all right, but it was the
reproving testimonies which made the trouble. And when the
rebellious unfurl their banner, all the disaffected rally
around the standard, and all the spiritually defective, the
lame, the halt, and the blind, unite their influence to
scatter and sow discord.' (4SGa36,37)
Question: So while there is the distinct danger of causing
division if we present the more challenging truths in the wrong way,
generally speaking the cause of the division is not the
message or the messenger, but the reaction that some people
have to the message. Is this what you are saying?
`He
who faithfully preaches God's word, thereby condemning their
sins, too often incurs their hatred. Unwilling to endure the
pain and sacrifice necessary to reform, they turn upon the
Lord's servant and denounce his reproofs as uncalled for and
severe. Like Korah, they declare that the people are not at
fault; it is the reprover that causes all the trouble. And
soothing their consciences with this deception, the jealous
and disaffected combine to sow discord in the church and
weaken the hands of those who build it up.' (PP404)
Question: So it would appear, therefore, that no matter how
tactfully and lovingly truth is presented, if the work is to
advance, some will be offended and, as much as the idea
horrifies us, a certain amount of polarization will take place
within the ranks of the church.
`There
have ever been two classes among those who profess to be
followers of Christ. While one class study the Saviour's life
and earnestly seek to correct their defects and conform to the
Pattern, the other class shun the plain, practical truths
which expose their errors.' (GC43)
`Divisions
will come in the church. Two parties will be developed. The
wheat and tares grow up together for the harvest. The work
will grow deeper and become more earnest to the very close of
time. And all who are laborers together with God will contend
most earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints.
They will not be turned from the present message, which is
already lightening the earth with it's glory.' (2SM114)
Question: The third angel's message is
broad in its
application. You have said that the health work is the right
arm of this message. Could you summarize the main thrust of
the "health arm" of the message.
`To
make plain natural law and urge the obedience to it is the
work that accompanies the third angel's message, to prepare a
people for the coming of the Lord.' (MM289)
Question: You have expressly stated that we are not to make
a test on the matter of flesh food, but what should be our
stand in this regard?
`We are not to make the use of flesh foods a test of
fellowship, but we should consider the influence that
professed believers who use flesh foods have over others. As
God's messengers, shall we not say to the people,
"Whether
therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever you do, do all to the
glory of God?'' Shall we not bear a decided testimony against
the indulgence of perverted appetite? Will any who are
ministers of the gospel, proclaiming the most solemn truth
ever given to mortals, set an example in returning to the
fleshpots of Egypt? Will those who are supported by the tithe
from God's storehouse permit themselves by self-indulgence to
poison the life-giving current flowing through their veins?'
(MH133/4)
Question: Still on the matter of flesh foods, we often hear
dieticians and doctors claiming that flesh foods are essential
for the maintenance of life or for recovery from certain
illnesses. Do you have any comment on this?
`One of the great errors that many insist upon is that
muscular strength is dependant upon animal food. But the
simple grains, fruits of the trees, and vegetables have all the nutritive properties necessary to
make good blood. This a flesh diet cannot do.' (MM277)
`Those
who use flesh meats freely do not always have an unclouded
brain and an active intellect, because the use of the flesh of
animals tends to cause grossness of body and to benumb the
finer sensibilities of the mind. The liability to disease is
increased by flesh eating. We do not hesitate to say that meat
is not essential to the maintenance of health and strength.'
(CH115)
Question: Getting back to tests. You have also stated that
we should not make a test on the matter of a meatless diet,
and that in certain countries we should consider the situation
of the people and the power of lifelong habit. Does this mean
that in these countries it is not necessary to call
for a reform on the matter of a fleshless diet?
`The body which treats indifferently the right hand, refusing its aid, is able to accomplish nothing.' (MM238)
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In answer to your question may I share with you what I
once wrote to one of our ministers. `While we do not make the
use of flesh meat a test, while we do not want to force any
one to give up its use, yet it is our duty to request that no
minister of the conference shall make light of or oppose the
message of reform on this point. If, in the face of the light
God has given concerning the effect of meat eating on the
system, you will still continue to eat meat, you must bear the
consequences. But do not take a position before the people
that will permit them to think that it is not necessary to
call for a reform in regard to meat eating; because the Lord
is calling for a reform. The Lord has given us the work of
proclaiming the message of health reform, and if you cannot
step forward in the ranks of those who are giving this message
you are not to make this prominent. In counterworking the
efforts of your fellow laborers, who are teaching health
reform, you are out of order, working on the wrong side.'
(CD401)
Question: Is there any relationship between
the use of flesh foods and
cancer?
`Cancers,
tumors, and all inflammatory diseases are largely caused by
meat eating.' (MM278)
Question: Somewhere in your writings you also mention that the
use of flesh has an effect upon our nature. Is this correct?
`By
the use of flesh meat the animal nature is strengthened and
the spiritual nature weakened.' (MM279)
Question: One often hears it said that much of the counsel
you gave us so many decades ago does not have much relevance today, that
things have changed and that science has now advanced beyond your
time.
`I
have been shown that the principles that were given us in the
early days of the message are as important and should be
regarded just as conscientiously today as they were then.
There are some who have never followed the light given on the
question of diet. It is now time to take the light from under
the bushel and let it shine forth in clear, bright rays.'
(CH132)
Question: There are mixed feelings as to how we should go
about proclaiming this message today. Some feel that we are
not aggressive enough in our efforts, others again feel that
our mandate is to preach Jesus and then wait for Him to bring
the fruits into the life. Would you comment on this?
`Let those who are teachers and leaders in our cause
take their stand firmly on Bible ground in regard to health
reform and give a straight testimony to those who believe we
are living in the last days of this earth's history. A line of
distinction must be drawn between those who serve God and
those who serve themselves.' (CH132)
`Men
and women must be instructed, and ministers and people should
feel that the burden of the work rests upon them to agitate
and urge it home upon others.' (CD52)
Question: Now hold on a minute, and here I want to count my
words lest it be thought that I am suggesting that we are at
liberty to judge others, but did you say that health reform is
the line of distinction between those who serve God and those
who serve themselves?
`Our
habits of eating and drinking show whether we are of the world
or among the number whom the Lord by His mighty cleaver of
truth has separated from the world.' (CD58)
`When
men and women are truly converted, they will conscientiously
regard the laws of life that God has established in their
being, thus seeking to avoid physical, mental, and moral
feebleness.' (6T369)
`The
agitation of the subject of reform in eating and drinking will
develop character and will unerringly bring to light those who
make a "god of their bellies.'' ' (CH39)
Question: Health reform is a broad and complex subject.
Often a person is overjoyed as new vigor returns to his body
and he rushes out in innocent enthusiasm to share his findings
with others. With an incomplete knowledge at such times these
people are prone to err. How should we deal with these erring
brethren?
`If
a brother is supposed to have erred, his brethren and sisters
should not whisper it among themselves and comment upon it,
magnifying these supposed errors and faults.' (5T615)
`One
soul - how precious it is, and how carefully should we deal
with the purchase of the blood of God's only begotten Son!
Precious souls cost too much to be handled roughly. They need
tenderness, kindly forbearance and very gentle and wise
treatment.' (TSA41)
Question: In one statement you say that,
"It is our duty to
understand and respect the principles of health reform. On the
subject of temperance we should be in advance of all other
people; and yet there are among us well-instructed members of
the church, and even ministers of the gospel, who have little
respect for the light that God has given upon this subject.
They eat as they please and work as they please" (CH132). We
would like to believe that these individuals are the exception
rather than the rule, but why is it that some of our
ministering brethren take
this message for granted?
You ask,
`why do some of our ministering brethren
manifest so little interest in health reform? It is because
instruction on temperance in all things is opposed to their
practice of self-indulgence. In some places this has been the
great stumbling block in the way of our bringing the people to
investigate and practice and teach health reform. No man
should be set apart as a teacher of the people while his own
teaching or example contradicts the testimony God has given
His servants to bear in regard to diet, for this will bring
confusion. His disregard of health reform unfits him to stand
as the Lord's messenger.' (CD453/454)
`Those
ministers who feel at liberty to indulge the appetite are
falling far short of the mark. God wants them to be health
reformers. He wants them to live up to the light that has been
given on the subject. I feel sad when I see those who should
be zealous for our health principles, not yet converted to the
right way of living. I pray that the Lord may impress their
minds that they are meeting with great loss. If things were as
they should be in the households that make up our churches, we
might do double work for the Lord.' (CH137, 138)
Question: That is rather a serious statement. Would these
words apply with the same gravity to the teachers and
principals in our schools.
`There is a message regarding health reform to be borne
in every church. There is a work to be done in every school.
Neither principal nor teachers should be entrusted with the
education of the youth until they have a practical knowledge
of this subject.' (CD455)
Question: Our institutions are running into financial
problems across the globe and our evangelistic efforts are
meeting with ever-diminishing success. Some claim that this is
partly because we are rejecting much of the Lord's counsel -
and especially His counsel in regard to health reform. Could this be true?
`The
Lord has been sending us line upon line, and if we reject
these principles we are not rejecting the messenger who
teaches them, but the One who has given us the principles.
Reform, continual reform, must be kept before the people, and
by our example we must enforce our teaching. True religion and
the laws of health go hand in hand. It is impossible to work
for the salvation of men and women without presenting to them
the need of breaking away from sinful gratifications, which
destroy the health, debase the soul, and prevent divine truth
from impressing the mind.' (7T137)
Question:
It follows, therefore, that our evangelistic
efforts will be far more fruitful if we embrace the health
message as a corporate body?
`The
subject of health reform has been presented in the churches;
but the light has not been heartily received. The selfish,
health-destroying indulgences of men and women have
counteracted the influences of the message that is to prepare
a people for the great day of God. If the churches expect
strength, they must live the truth which God has given them.
If the members of our churches disregard the light on this
subject, they will reap the sure result in both physical and
spiritual degeneracy. And the influence of these older church
members will leaven those newly come to the faith.' (CD455)
Question: Does this mean that God has to some extent
withdrawn His blessing from our evangelistic efforts because
we are simply not ready to receive new converts into the
church?
`The
Lord does not now work to bring many souls into the truth,
because of the church members who have not been converted, and
those who were once converted, but who have backslidden. What
influence would these unconsecrated members have on new
converts? Would they not make of no effect the God-given
message which His people are to bear?' (CD455)
`Medical
Missionary work is the right hand of the gospel. It is
necessary to the advancement of the cause of God. As through
it men and women are led to see the importance of right habits
of living. The body which treats indifferently the right
hand, refusing its aid, is able to accomplish nothing.' (7T59,
MM238)
Question:
How do you view the present condition of God's
church?
`I
view the church in a more dangerous condition than they ever
have been. Experimental religion is known by but a few. The
shaking must soon take place.' (2SG284)
`The
failure to follow sound principles has marred the history of
God's people. There has been a continual backsliding in health
reform, and as a result God is dishonored by a great lack of
spirituality. Barriers have been erected which would never
have been seen had God's people walked in the light.' (CH578)
`There
are times when a distinct view is presented to me of the
condition of the remnant church, a condition of appalling
indifference to the needs of a world perishing for lack of
a knowledge of the truth for this time.’ (8T24)
Question: All of this is rather sobering. What can we expect
in the future?
`I saw that individuals would rise up against the plain
testimonies. It does not suit their natural feelings. They
would choose to have smooth things spoken unto them, and have
peace cried in their ears.' (2SG284)
Question: Are you saying therefore that this is not the time
for smooth things to be spoken to the church?
`Spirits
of evil are combining with human agencies to war against the
commandments of God. Tradition and falsehood are exalted above
the Scriptures; reason and science above revelation; human
talent above the teaching of the Spirit; forms and ceremonies
above the vital power of godliness. Grievous sins have
separated the people from God. Infidelity is fast becoming
fashionable. "We will not have this man to reign over us,''
is the language of thousands. God's ministers must lift up the
voice like a trumpet, and show the people their
transgressions. The smooth sermons so often preached make no
lasting impression. Men are not cut to the heart, because the
plain, sharp truths of the word of God are not spoken to
them.' (GW149)
Question:
Independent ministries seem to have become all the
vogue today, and we must say that some of them are doing
admirable work, how does this order of things fit into God's
plan.
`The
members of the church of God on this earth are as the
different parts of a machine, all closely related to and
dependant on one great center. There is to be unity in
diversity. No member of the Lord's firm can work successfully
in independence, detached from the others.' (TSA58)
`God
will not bless those who work without taking counsel with
their brethren. Any Seventh-day Adventist who supposes that in
himself he is a complete whole, and that he can at all times
safely follow his own mind and judgment, is not to be
trusted; for he is not walking in the light as Christ is in
the light.' (MM152)
`My
brethren, the Lord calls for unity, for oneness. We are to be
one in the faith. I want to tell you that when the gospel
ministers and the medical missionary workers are not united,
there is placed on our churches the worst evil that can be
placed there. Our medical missionaries ought to be interested
in the work of our conferences, and our conference workers
ought to be as much interested in the work of our medical
missionaries.' (MM241)
Question: Are you saying therefore that all ministries
should come under the control of the local conference?
`The
leaders among God's people are to guard against the danger of
condemning the methods of individual workers who are led by
the Lord to do a special work that but few are fitted to do.
Let brethren in responsibility be slow to criticize movements
that are not in perfect harmony with their methods of labor.
Let them never suppose that every plan should reflect their
personality. Let them not fear to trust another's methods; for
by withholding their confidence from a brother laborer who,
with humility, and consecrated zeal, is doing a special work
in God's appointed way, they are retarding the advancement of
the Lord's cause. God can and will use men who have not had a
thorough education in the schools of men. Oh for less of
this uncalled-for, distrustful caution! It leaves so many
forces of the church unused; it closes up the way so that the
Holy Spirit cannot use men; . . . I have been shown that human
instrumentalities are liable to seek after too much power and
try to control the work themselves.' (9T259/260)
`The
fact that a man has been selected to be the President of a
Conference, does not mean that he shall have authority to rule
over his fellow workmen. This is after the practice of Rome,
and it cannot be tolerated, for it restricts religious
liberty, and the man is led to place himself where God alone
should be. God has not laid upon any living man the burden
of jealousy regarding the movements of his fellowmen, for this
would restrict his intelligent freedom. In following a course
of this kind men are pursuing a similar course to that of the
Roman Catholics who center in the Pope every power of the
church, and ascribe to him authority to act as God. When
this manner of action comes in among our people, there is need
of a protest.' (Manuscript 53, 1894)
Question: Has the Lord given you any instruction in regard
to the diet of His children as we draw near to the end?
`We
shall soon reach a time when we must understand the meaning of
a simple diet. The time is not far hence when we shall be
obliged to adopt a diet very different from our present
diet . . . ' (MM281)
`The
Lord intends to bring His people back to live upon simple
fruits, vegetables and grains.' (MM277)
`Not
an ounce of flesh-meat should enter our stomachs. The eating
of flesh is unnatural. We are to return to God's original
purpose in the creation of man.' (MM229)
Question: Today the world is moving more and more towards
professionalism. The result is that lay persons are often
loathe to go forward in certain lines for fear of criticism
from those who have studied in the universities of the world.
Has the time come to leave the work to the professionals, or
is there still a place for the layman to take up his sickle
and enter into the various fields that the Lord has called us
to?
`God
can and will use men who have not had a thorough education in
the schools of men. Oh for less of this uncalled-for,
distrustful caution! It leaves so many forces of the church
unused; it closes up the way so that the Holy Spirit cannot
use men; . . . I have been shown that human instrumentalities
are liable to seek after too much power and try to control the
work themselves.' (9T259/260)
Question: Some are claiming that only those who follow
health principles will have a strong enough immune system to
resist the coming plagues. Is there any truth in this?
In the book Temperance there is a report of a dream I
once had. In this dream I saw an angel talking to two men. I
heard the angel say to these men, "Neither of you have seen
the necessity of health reform, but when the plagues of God
shall be all around you, you will then see the principles of
health reform and strict temperance in all things."
(Temperance, p.201).
Question: `When we have tried to present the health reform
to our brethren and sisters, and have spoken to them of the
importance of eating and drinking and doing all that they do
to the glory of God, many by their actions have said, ``It is
nobody's business whether I eat this or that.'' ' What
would you say to this?
To
these I would say . . . `Dear friends, you are greatly
mistaken. You are not the only sufferers from a wrong course.
The society you are in bears the consequences of your wrongs,
in a great degree, as well as yourselves. If you suffer from
your intemperance in eating or drinking, we that are around
you or associated with you are also affected by your
infirmities. We have to suffer on account of your wrong
course. If it has an influence to lessen your powers of mind
or body, we feel it when in your society and are affected by
it. If, instead of a buoyancy of spirit, you are gloomy, you
cast a shadow upon the spirits of all around you. If your
brain is so benumbed by your wrong course of living that you
cannot give us the right counsel, do we not meet with a loss?'
(CH45, 46)
Question: I deduce from the above that there is also a link
between health reform and our happiness, and that our bearing
in the world depends largely upon our habits of life. Is that
true?
`So
closely is health related to our happiness, that we cannot
have the latter without the former.' (CH38)
Question: You have stated that when the character of Jesus is
reproduced in His people then and then only will He come to
take us home. Is there any relationship between the health
message and the perfection of His people?
`God
demands that the appetites be cleansed, and that self-denial
be practiced in regard to those things which are not good. This is a work that will have to be done before His people can
stand before Him a perfected people.' (CD161)
Question: What do
you suggest should be done to revive an
interest in health work at church level?
`Get
the young men and women in the churches to work. Combine
medical missionary work with the proclamation of the third
angel's message. Make regular, organized efforts to lift the
church members out of the dead level in which they have been
for years. Send out into the churches workers who will live
the principles of health reform. Let those be sent who can see
the necessity of self-denial in appetite, or they will be a
snare to the church. See if the breath of life will not then
come into our churches.' (MM320)
Question: And what would you suggest should be the work of
our ministers at this time.
`In
new fields no work is so successful as medical missionary
work. If our ministers would work earnestly to obtain an
education in medical missionary lines, they would be far
better fitted to do the work Christ did as a medical
missionary. By diligent study and practice they can become so
well acquainted with the principles of health reform that
wherever they go they will be a great blessing to the people
they meet.' (MM239)
`Those
who go forth to engage in the work of the ministry must be
intelligent upon the subject of health reform. Those men who
after many years' experience have yet no appreciation of the
medical missionary work, should not be appointed to preside
over our churches. They are not walking in the light of
present truth for this time. Those who love the truth and
appreciate the question of temperance in all its bearings
should not be placed in the charge of a minister who has not
heeded the light God has given upon health reform. What help
can a man be to a church if he is not walking in the light?'
(MM238)
Question: Could you tell us something more about the work we
are to do as we near the end?
`The work in the cities is the essential work for this
time, and is now to be taken hold of in faith. When the cities
are worked as God would have them, the result will be the
setting in operation of a mighty movement such as we have not
yet witnessed. May the Lord give wisdom to our brethren that
they may know how to carry forward the work in harmony with
His will.' (MM331)
`Medical
missionary work is to be done. Thousands upon thousands of
human beings are perishing. The compassion of God is moved.
All heaven is looking on with intense interest to see what
stamp medical missionary work will assume under the
supervision of human beings. Will men make merchandise of
God's ordained plan for reaching the dark parts of the earth
with a manifestation of His benevolence?' (MM131)
Question: Has the Lord revealed that the end time work will
succeed?
`We
shall see the medical missionary work broadening and deepening
at every point of its progress, because of the inflowing of
hundreds and thousands of streams, until the whole world is
covered as the waters cover the sea.' (MM317)
When
you speak of Medical Missionary work, are you referring to the
work of qualified doctors and nurses, or is there a broader
meaning to this term?
The
definition that has been given by the compilers in the
introduction to the book Welfare Ministry is fitting: The
phrase "medical missionary work'' includes the
"professional services of consecrated doctors and nurses,
and . . . its significance also reaches far
beyond these bounds to include all acts of mercy and
disinterested kindness." (WM10)
Question:
If the Third Angel's Message is to triumph as God has promised
that it will, what do you see as our greatest need at this time?
`The
health reform, I was shown, is a part of the third angel's
message, and is just as closely connected with it as the arm
and hand is with the body.' `This is one of the great branches
of the work of preparation for the coming of the Son of man.'
(CD32,71).
`As we near the close of time, we must rise higher and still
higher upon the question of health reform and Christian
temperance, presenting it in a more positive and decided
manner. We must strive continually to educate the people, not
only by our words, but by our practice. Precept and practice
combined have a telling influence.' (CD451/452).
`The
presentation of this message is to result in the conversion of
souls. This is a wonderful, definite message; it means
everything to the receiver, and is to be proclaimed with a
loud cry. We must have a true, abiding faith that this message
will go forth with increasing importance till the close of
time.' (CD36)
Those
who wish to consider the deeper relevance of our health message
are urged to consider the feature,
The True Science of
Healing,
or to read the free E-Book at
www.keepwell.com.
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